great. one of the young soldiers yelled from the back, mister president, irene lusted in the military because of you. and the president said, son, i'm here because of you. shortly after that young soldier came up to me he said sarah you have a tough job. i told him what i do is nothing. you take bombs and bullets and that is a tough job. in a moment i know i will cherish for the rest of my life, that soldier reached up and then pulled the brave rifles patchy won his shoulder, and placed it into my hand, a sign of ultimate respect. and he said, sarah, we are in this together. overwhelmed with emotion, and speechless, i just hugged him, with tears in my eyes and a

grateful heart for our heroes who keep us free. that young man, and everyone who has served before him, all of those who serve alongside him, and the thousands we know who will be called upon to serve after him, deserve to know they have a country and community back home, doing our part in the fight for freedom. america is great because we are free. but today, or freedom is under attack. and the america we love is in danger. president biden and the democrats have failed to you. and it is time for a change. a new generation of republican leaders are stepping up, not to be caretakers of the status quo but to be changemakers for the american people. we know not what the future holds, but we know who holds

the future in his hands. and with god as our witness, we will show the world that america is still the place where freedom rains and liberty will never die. thank you. god bless you and god bless america. >> republican governor of arkansas, sarah how could be sanders, giving the republican response to president biden's state of the union address. join us now in studio, the former speaker of the house, congresswoman nancy pelosi, the first time i have ever called you congresswoman, as opposed to leader pelosi. let me ask, you there was a very powerful moment this evening when president biden specifically praised your husband paul, who, we all know, was grievously attacked. he called your husband as tough, a strong and this as resilient as they get. i want to just show a little bit of that, if that's okay with you.

>> here tonight in this chamber is a man who bears the scars of that brutal attack, but is as tough and a strong and as resilient as they get. that's my friend, paul pelosi. paul, stand up. >> what did that moment mean to you, congresswoman? and how is paul doing? >> paul is doing fine. he still on a path. it will take him another few months to be well, normal. but he is strong and resilient. what it meant was that so many of my colleagues -- of course, the democrats -- but many of the republicans, have been very prayerful and kind about this. some of them are not. but most of them have been. and so, when they responded to that, it had some authenticity for me. it was not just, they are applauding, because it really match the words that they had said.

and it was lovely of the president, to make mention of, it not because as a personal matter, but in terms of what it meant for our country, that any of us in the public arena could be under siege. >> and speaker pelosi -- which, i am told, i can still call you, which feels more natural, if that's okay -- speaker pelosi, there's something else i want to get your response to. again, it's a minority of the republicans we are talking about. it's not a majority of them. but there was heckling like i have never really heard at the state of the union address. let's play some of that. >> instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some republicans -- some republicans -- want medicare and social security to sunset. i'm not saying it's a majority. >> oh! oh! >> anybody who doubts it, contact my office. i will give you a copy -- i will give you a copy of the proposal. that means congress does not

vote -- >> oh! >> let me tell -- you i see. and i enjoy conversion. >> we should point out as a matter of fact that republican senator senator, rick scott, of florida, has proposed sunsetting all federal programs, which presumably would include social security and medicare. what did you think of the federal heckling? >> i think they were protesting too much. they knew they had been identified as putting medicare and social security on the table. and they were trying to dismiss that. but the fact is, it still is part of who they are. they never really support today to begin with. but rather than go into that, as we go forward, the president has said, how do you intend to list the debt ceiling, produced a national debt. tell us what your -- and up until now, they have been talking about it. and the leader of the senate campaign committee, as you

mentioned, senator scott, had that as the priority of what they will do. so, this was sort of showbiz. >> it did not bother you though, did it? the lack of decorum? >> no. it was, for them, fairly well behaved, from what we see every day of the week in the house of representatives, unfortunately. >> the flip side of that -- and we were talking about this before you came on -- with that the president interacted and reacted to that in a way that maybe showed people what he was made of. what did you think of that? first of all, let me just say, thank you for the opportunity to say how great i think the president was tonight. >> what do we want in our president? we want judgment. we want values. we want knowledge. therefore, it's judgment springing from that. and we want connection to the american people. you want to hopeful message and that is what he gave us.

he proved it by what we have done, but recognizing there is much more to be done. so, his interaction, i think, was a sign that this comfort level, of all that i just said. >> he did talk about his desire to work with republicans who are now in control of the chamber. given your experience, dealing with or not dealing with people across the aisle, how realistic is that right now? >> i'm hopeful that that is possible. but all of it depends on the american people. president lincoln -- you have heard me say -- he said, public sentiment is everything. with, it you can accomplish almost anything. without it, practically nothing. so, the message has to go to the american people. this is what the choices are. chaos or stability. and they have demonstrated how chaotic they can be from the first day electing a speaker, to their behavior on the floor. on the other hand, there are

some -- infrastructure bill, and we had 13 republicans vote -- in the chips in science bill, we had 24 republicans. but nonetheless, bipartisanship. >> still counting votes. >> it was interesting to me, because some of those -- the chips and science -- they would not vote with us until we saw we would win it on our own. and they thought that that was a that event. so, they came on board. but we always have to -- we know that some of them know -- they were for the bill the day before the ships in science. and then the day of, they managed the opposition to it. but we knew that many of them believed in making these ships in america. >> and many republicans, we know, went home to their districts and touted the belief, even if we voted against. it >> -- i said about infrastructure and chips. i will see you at the

groundbreaking. i >> want to go a little bit about back to what dana was saying. because this speech was the context of a president who may run for reelection pretty soon. and you probably heard by now, a recent poll found about 30% -- only about 30% of democrats say he should run again. it seems like a lot of democrats, they're happy with joe biden, they think he has done a great job, but they are wondering if he should step to the side. you have made that choice on your own, ushering in a new generation of democrats in the house. what do you say to that criticism? and do you think he did anything tonight to quiet some of the rest of this among democrats? about, should joe biden be the person leading the country into the future? >> last week and i was at the democratic national committee meeting in philadelphia. i know there were some would say, perhaps we should consider somebody new. but even in the 30% poll that you said, 90% of democrats

would be joe biden if he runs -- what they might hope for in this earlier stages of a campaign and what they have decided they would do are actually two different things. they are for joe biden. joe biden is a person of vision, knowledge, judgment, strategic thinking to get the job done. he was a remarkable two years. a remarkable two years. and again, he connects very empathetically with the we are good people. so, i hope he runs. i'm for him if he runs. and i know that the democrats will fully embrace him. if he runs, it's over. that is -- >> i don't think there will be any primary challenges to him. >> i don't think so. >> dana was talking to aoc earlier today. and she said something -- dana, correct me if i'm wrong -- to the effect of, she appreciates the primary process.

i mean, do you think that -- you think there will be any democrats to jump in to try to challenge joe biden on this generational argument? >> no, i don't. i think that you have to weigh all the equities. yes, the age issue is something that we all have to contend with in every line of work. but i do think that the fact is that weighing the equities -- this is a president -- 12 million jobs and all of the things that he has done, he has a record unmatched by any recent president. maybe franklin roosevelt, who hasn't recent. but franklin roosevelt had 319 democrats. we had 220 and got done that record of achievement. so, he knows and he has a shared mission with america and he is a unifier he really is. it does not go looking for differences. he goes to look for hopeful

unity and he talked about for unifying things when he talked about -- he talked about the cancer moonshot. he talked about veterans and he talked about the issues that relate to fentanyl -- >> fentanyl -- >> -- but also mental health issues that sort of relate to that where we have made some progress in a unified way. so, he's always hopeful about that. so, progress -- he made progress. you give us hope. he made it clear, we have much more to get done. we did not finish our job. but we really went down the path in a way that demonstrated that he is a president with great judgment. sometimes that judgment comes with age. i remember when jerry brown was running for governor office when he was young -- he said, it's time for a change. then, when he ran for a governor, the second time, there is no substitute for experience. experience counts for a lot.

i think, tonight, he showed the energy, the empathy, the hopefulness that a presidential candidate would have. i think it was a triumph for him, for the country and certainly for the democrats. people were so excited about his presentation tonight. >> all right, former house speaker nancy pelosi, thank you so much for being here. we are glad paul is on the mend. it's always good to see. >> thank you. lovely to be with you. >> jake, thanks so much. she's not only a historic figure. she's also a student of history. i love how she can sort of wheel off the house counts of franklin delano roosevelt. >> yeah. and also the jerry brown -- when 40 years apart for governor of california -- once as an agent of change and then as an agent of experience. but we ought to talk a little bit about sarah huckabee sanders sanders --

>> what did you think of her speech? >> it was a little bit of a speech into parts. but the first part, it was almost as if she was just talking to the base of the republican party. it was very, very -- it was searing. she said the difference in america is between normal and crazy. he was donald trump's press secretary. i mean, there is real irony in that. but she was stoking the red meat to the base. and she's probably someone who has ambitions of her own down the line in national republican politics. and this did not hurt her. but if the goal was to speak to a broader swath of americans, i don't think she achieved that. >> i like that she leaned into education choice. school choice is always a win, not just the republican base. from a policy perspective that was good. but yes, sarah huckabee sanders is not just thinking about her time and anytime in the governor's mansion but she has been considered to be on a

short list to be trump's running mate. made a lot of sense that she was throwing some red meat to the base. i probably would've followed it with a more unifying message and then put some more red meat at the end. so listen, she's a talented, savvy politician and make sense that they chose her. the juxtaposition on age. the youngest governor of the country meets president in history. >> by the way, hasn't every president visited the troops that -- >> yeah, we were all laughing. >> -- she was yelling it as if it were a remarkable achievement. >> i will say, it's -- through afghanistan and iraq in the same deal with the plane in the lights off and all that stuff. but you can't help but be inspired by the troops. and so that is not the province of any particular president or any particular party. and anybody who goes comes back without same sense of inspiration. >> i thought she came across as mean. and she's not mean. sarah huckabee sanders is not a mean person. i think she came across as mean. and i thought that it was not

necessary. she wants to help kids in arkansas, they should not need to help. she did not have to put down every democrat to -- it didn't make sense to me >> let's go back to the president speech because one of the things, then, you had referenced before was some of the sort of kitchen table issues that he talked about with airlines and other things, tickets for concerts. i just want to play some of what he said. we all kitchen table stuff. >> banned surprise resorted fees that hotels charge on your bill. those fees can cost up to $90 a night at hotels that aren't even resorts. the idea that cable, internet and cell phone companies can charge you 200 or more if you decide to switch to another provider -- give me a break. we can stop service fees on tickets and concerts and sporting events. and make companies disclose all fees upfront. we will prohibit airlines from charging $50 round chip for the

family just to be able to sit together. baggage fees are bad enough. airlines cannot tree your child like a piece of baggage. >> a, look, it sounds like someone is running for president. >> it does but it also sounds like someone who knows what is going on in the idea that he's old and out of touch, this is the stuff that drives people nuts. you are trying to raise kids, you are getting nikola and ayman screwed over all the time and no one is on your side. and he shows up and he says, look, i get it and i'm on your side. and i thought it was powerful because it shows that government can do -- at least through the small stuff -- >> we have a thing is, i think probably, one of maybe that we can parts of the speech was his discussion of inflation and how much better inflation was getting. this was a way of saying, i get the things in your life that are irritating in hard -- >> he's got to take some rocks out of your shoe. >> is that what we depend on the president for? to rail against the --

i mean, look, i agree with you, these are irritants. i mean, call me old fashioned. but this is the commander-in-chief of the most powerful military in the world. and he's talking about resorts before he ever got to china? >> not resorts -- >> whatever. which just flew a balloon over our country, which he really sort of failed to do anything about for several days -- i thought the whole thing is totally backwards. i understand the political usefulness of complained about things that irritate everyone. it felt small to me. if i can go back to sara for just a second, he seemed to be negative on her having some sort of partisan pieces of her speech that were for her base. what percentage of joe biden's speech was purely for democratic base that does not want him to run again? >> i think the whole tenor and tone, scott, of biden's speech was really constructed to try and speak to a broad audience. sure, there were some issues on which democrats are much more supportive than republicans. but it wasn't the sort of scorched earth. let me just be real frank about this. one of the things that is wrong

with the politics in our country is the fact that we don't just disagree on issues. but we disqualify ourselves as americans and as human beings. and she sort of strode right into that lane. and that, i think, many the base. but i don't think it is good for the country. and i don't think the country as a whole react well to that. and you know, joe biden did not do that in his speech. and that's not who joe biden is. that's one of the reasons why he's president of the united states and donald trump is not. >> you are saying you don't think joe biden is a strident, artisan democrat? i just disrespectfully respectfully disagree. the most important thing sanders did to juxtapose the republican position against biden wants to make this generational argument. there is a clear market demand for biden not to run again. not by republicans, but democrats. there is a clear demand for trump to not run again. and so what she is appealing to is probably the only unifying thing in the country. >> -- but you didn't -- but you didn't respond to a

point i am making -- >> i'm responding. >> no, you are not. you are doing what a trained political professional does. you are changing the subject. what i am saying is -- what i'm saying is, that the -- at the end of the speech biden spoke to the fact that we need to not treat each other's enemies but as fellow americans what. i heard in her speech was, no, let's treat each other's enemies. that was the tone and tenor of her speech. i agree that the education stuff had a much broader appeal. >> i think there are two -- >> -- i'm sorry, go ahead, van. >> -- when it's generally shuttle peace. and sotheby's hander spoke to that well. but are you going to be a uniter or a divider? -- joe biden and republicans voted -- because joe biden was a united and i then republicans across the border. not >> what i can lose, just real quick and, sarah sponsors the generational message was the most powerful. but trump still the front runner for the gop. so are we going to take that hold our party to the same standard?

and the role just as -- 80-year-old. >> i disagree. i don't he's think he's the front reiner right now. i don't think we have. one -- >> you can will run desantis into the -- universe >> take it up with sarah sanders -- >> -- jake? >> anderson, thanks so much. i'm here with don lemon. because we saw the parents of tyre nichols in the house chamber this evening to bear witness to the -- this is obviously just days after they buried their son who fatally beaten by memphis police and you could sense the pain and the disconnected next on the other world lateness of the situation that it must have been for them. the president acknowledging their pain in the pain felt by far too many families of color. >> most of us in here have never had to have the top, the top that brown and black parents have had to have their with their children. beau, hunter, ashton my

children, -- right away. don't reach for your license. keep your hands on the steering wheel. imagine having to worry about that every single time your kid got in a car. >> and don lemon joins me now. don lemon, what were your thoughts on that very emotional moment? >> i was looking at the face of rowvaughn and rodney wells -- the anguish campaign on her face, having to look about -- and i was thinking about my interview with her when she said just days after her son's death that she wanted action and legislation. she wanted congress to do something and she said the people in washington to do something to stop it. and i was thinking what you and i talked about, as anderson was talking, that this was the

first time that i believe, as you said, that the top has been mentioned in the state of the union. that is something that is so personal and something that every black parent feels that they have to give to their children, especially black boys or black man. so, it was a moment. and the people who were there tonight, other mothers, of gwen carr, who is eric garner's mother, so that she was there for the same reason as rowvaughn wells. and she said that there were issues that affected all of us that the president was going to talk about tonight. there are issues that specifically affected us, many african americans, more than others. and he hoped that he would address it. she believed that he did. she wanted him, though, to be stronger, when it comes to police reform. but she thinks that this is the right direction and she like some of the proposals. >> i know that it was one of the goals of the white house for the speech, for white

middle class parents learned about the top. the top is something that you know that has been part of the discussion on policing reform and black lives matter and the like for the last 5 to 10 years. but is still probably largely unknown in white america. do you think he accomplished that. do you think that the white middle class families or white families out there might now have an understanding of it in a way they wouldn't have? >> i would hope, so jake. and listen -- i think that it is joe biden superpower, it's been his every man knows-ness -- whether you like his policies or not -- you get the message across, because those are the people, the people that you mentioned, white america, those are the folks that need to hear. and where it is a formal, i'm going to see you down sign and

i'm going to have a talk with you, or just like my dad, who say, hey, boy, listen. those police talk you out there, you know, you comply. you do what they tell you. don't get out of the car. put your hands on the outside of the car. every parent does that. not because they think you are doing something wrong but because they want to save your life. >> yeah. >> have that, especially, white parents, white police officers, black police officers, as the officers in memphis for black -- i hope that they are listening to the president more than everyone, especially on enforcement, because those at the hands that young peoples lives were in, or just young people, especially black people's lives are in, when they get pulled over by police officers. >> let's listen to the moment where he called upon congress to act. so, something came of this tragedy. >> what happened to tyre nichols and memphis happens too

often. we have to do better. let's commit ourselves to make the worlds of tyre nichols's mom true. something good must come from this. all of us in this chamber, we need to rise to this moment. we can't turn away. let's do what we know in our hearts that we need to do. >> let's come together to finish the job on police reform. do something. >> do something. and emotional moment, a call to action. it's very light on specifics. it's very different from when i talk to congresswoman cori bush earlier today with michael brown senior and said, what do you want? and she started listing listing legislation of legislation. this bill will have psychiatrist and health care experts go on to calls that are necessary as opposed to police that are not trained -- >> cory booker and all of them giving specifics -- >> tim scott. there are a number of legislators. i understand the reason for that. because he wants them to write the bill and then he will sign

it. and he does not want to tell them what to do. but the big hang-up in congress, quite honestly, as you know better than i, it is whether or not police should receive blanket immunity. >> right. qualified to be the -- >> -- immunity from lawsuits. that is what tim scott, the republican from south carolina did not want to give and that's what democrats were demanding. and that's how the talks broke down. >> so -- a complicated answer here but i will keep it short. when the president of the united states said that police are good people -- right, so he's walking -- this is a very delicate balance he has to do because he did not say, i want to defund the police, he said i want to defund committee, so he saying -- i want to fund communities. so, he saying he wants to fund people. there's not saying i want to defund the police. so, it's a delicate dance that he's doing because he wants to be supportive of law enforcement. what he wants to do something

about police reform. it was to think about crime. so, he has to -- wait >> it's a lot. >> it's a lot he has to do in one speech. >> so, i'm not surprised that he was light on specific. so i think when he says that and you get a standing ovation from republicans, that perhaps, hopefully, there will be some movement on this and some common ground. and i hope that by having the parents of tyre nichols there, so fresh just weeks ago, when i sat on the couch and spoke to them, that it would still be fresh in peoples hearts and that there would be some movement from the congress to do something, to act, to move, because no one should die. no one should be paralyzed. no one should be shot in a routine please stop. we all deserve that right as americans and i think the president convey that. >> down, so good to have you. and i know you are --

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>> we are back with their state of the union government action to president biden's reaction a message to congress in the american people. biden rolled out a new mantra as he laid out his agenda for the next two years and he teed up in some ways his 2024 campaign should he launch one. he repeated the phrase about a dozen times, let's finish the job. and we now have the first results from our exclusive flash poll, people watch president biden state of the union address david chalian mr. flash poll is here to break it down. david? >> yes, before i reveal all the

numbers, jake, as you know, this is a poll of speech watchers. this is not representative of the country overall. what we normally present polls. i like that because what we know is speech watchers for any president state of the union tend to be on the presidents political team, no matter which team that is. that is true with this sample as well and it's about eight points more democratic than the general population at large. so, keep that in mind as you now look at these numbers are the response of speech watchers. 34% of those watching the speech tonight had a very positive reaction to joe biden speech. 38%, somewhat positive, 20%, negative. and the positive numbers are up -- that 72% positive. and if you look at that, compared to previous biden state of the union address is you will see over time that 72% is roughly what we have seen in the past. -- so, 72%, 60 or 71% last year.

his first big speech which is not officially stated the union was at 70%. but he's right in line with where he was last year. and now take a look on how it compares to his predecessors in the job. so, at this point in the trump presidency at the beginning of the third year of the presidency, trump got a 76% positive. obama, in 2011, was that 84% positive. as was george w. bush in 2003, on the eve of watching his reelection campaign. biden 72%, jake. >> all right david chalian, thanks so much. abby -- not a surprise. people who are watching the state of the union address tend to want to see that president speaking. but some stronger views. >> yeah. i think this is generally viewed as a fairly strong speech, especially for biden. you heard it also from speaker pelosi who was here just a few moments ago and i think democrats are pretty elated at

beyond just the sort of typical kind of a thing and i think you are hearing a feeling that they needed biden to do a certain set of things and he accomplished what they wanted them to do in terms of the tone and the tenor and the substance of the speech. it is interesting to me -- i love the comparisons. because i think it tells us a lot about just the kind of declining ability of the american people to come to an agreement on things. it's sort of like trickling away over the years. but i think is just a reflection of the deep partisanship. we are in a pretty divided place is a country. so, in some ways, biden kind of scoring marks about a -- it's probably a triumph for him. we should not overstate the case. >> joe biden is known for a lot of wonderful qualities and some not so wonderful once he. he's not particularly known as a great orator. he's in fact, quite the

opposite. >> right. which is why our reporting is that all presidents -- take state of the union speeches every reitman and they practice them. but he really, really worked hard on this. because he and his aides understood very well how high the stakes were for this one in particular. for all the reasons we were talking about. because he is -- now has reintroduce himself to the american people as a president who wants another term. and as a president who wants another term at age 80 years old. and he has a higher bar -- for eastern presidents who want to run again. -- so critical -- this is not at me saying. this is people who -- >> are one of the things that biden doesn't necessarily project well historically when

it comes to the speeches's vigor, a strength. he might convey empathy very well. obviously, we've been talk about this all night. republicans heckling him and it was a minority of them. but it was the same when you give it mccarthy a run for as many months ago. and -- they -- and they really gave them an opportunity to see them -- push back. and have a ad hoc debated to even score some points. >> we have heard from white house advisers -- -- and -- what he's out to do on the campaign trial. sort of hammering away at the mega maga republicans like it did last year. but it did not mean they weren't going to draw a contrast. there's a difference there. so, yes, he was not going to build proactively in a place he does when he's in a pure partisan political setting. but they played right into his ability to draw the contrast with republicans that he has

been drawing throughout his entire tenure. constantly telling people this is not your father's republican party. and they did not act like it was the father's republican party. and so that helped him. i just think the other piece that was so successful for him tonight is the ability to meet the american people where they are on the economy. that's the stuff of gold and politics. all politicians look to do it. and for a guy who has spent 50 years in washington and can be, sometimes, a little washing tinny in his demeanor, he -- and largely an economic speech. i think we got four minutes of foreign policy total. and try to make the country were there. >> it's interesting. because i remember after donald trump gave his 2016 republican national convention speech, which was dark and foreboding, president obama came out and basically mocked it, which in some circles was interpreted as

mocking people's concerns. you are right. biden did not do that, although every fiber of his being wants to be, look at these jobs numbers, look at the low unemployment numbers. >> it seemed like a clear attempt to reclaim the economic populism message and -- >> oh, sure. >> -- even using some of the same message about jobs lost, communities hollowed out. it's not quite as daca as the famous -- >> american carnage -- >> american carnage speech -- but a clear attempt to reclaim that part of the economic narrative that used to actually belong to democrats back in the day, before nafta and before all of the trade deals had to kind of really chipped away at it and created an opening for -- >> so, since last thursday, and especially friday, we have been talking a lot about the chinese spy balloon. we all wondered how much, if i call, president biden was going to talk about this this evening. here is the quick mention -- >> i'm committed to work with

china where we can advance american interests and benefit the world. make no mistake about it. as we made clear last week, if china threatens our sovereignty, we will act to protect our country and we did. >> and he only mentioned it. and it was a glancing reference. >> i was glancing reference. why because of all the reasons that they just gave him we were talking about tonight the -- economy is still the driving issue and he was in cares a lot about china. it was a very big story, what happened with the balloon -- he did not say balloon. he was clear on what he's talking about. but that was also noteworthy. but what people can afford and what can't afford and the things that affect peoples everyday lives. it matters the most. that matters the most to them not just now as citizens, but in the future as voters for

him. >> and foreign policy perspective, i asked the white house official about how he would address this. and it seemed to me that the perception inside of the white house is that the coverage of this balloon story is sensational. it's kind of -- i mean, it's kind of fun. you don't get to see if 20 shooting down a balloon every day. but i think there was a little bit of frustration that it was kind of blown out of proportion. and i think that they did not want to lean into that too much. on top of that, i think it was a clear attempt to take the temperature down. on china there. they did not want to add things up, to make this a kind of raw, we shot down your balloon, and sort of thing. he even mentioned, we will work with china in areas where we can find an agreement. i think this was biden being -- i mean, former chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he's not going to go too far when he is not comfortable doing that. on an issue that he actually thinks is incredibly important. >> all right, coming up more,

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>> we are getting reaction from the american people to the present stave state of the

union address. david chalian as results for our flash poll speech watchers. david, what else did you -- >> -- why this was a successful night for joe biden. again, this is a poll of speech watchers, and more democratic friendly audience overall, because it's a democratic president. tonight where democratic and country a large. but we asked people, did biden's policies -- are they going to move the country in the right direction or wrong direction -- 71% of speech what you said the right direction. 29% said the wrong direction. but i want to compare that 71% to what people thought prior to the speech -- we were able to look pre-speech and pro speech. you will see, hear the movement of people who thought his policies would move the country in the right direction. prior to the speech, 52% of the speech watchers said they believe biden policies would move in the right direction and then after the watch in the speech that went up to 71% -- we see something similar on economic policy specifically anderson. so, it's 66% of speech watchers

said biden's economic policies move the country in the right direction -- they do for us and say the wrong direction. but again, the impact of the speech, prior to the speech -- these folks said -- i think it was roughly, maybe, 50% of these folks, so that his economic policies would move the country in the right direction. but after the speech, that went up to 66%. that is exactly what the white house is looking for on the eve of the president, likely to announce a reelection campaign. >> fascinating to see that, david chalian. we had a pretty interesting moment ahead of the president of the union address tonight. whoever can senator mitt romney had an encounter confronting gop congressman george santos, he's under investigation for multiple lies, telling him, quote, you don't belong here. he also apparently said to -- he also said to -- i'm looking at it right, now to george santos -- he said to reporters about santos, you should be sitting in the back row and staying quiet instead of parading in front of the president and people coming into the room.

i'm not clear exactly what santos's response, if any, was though, i think he later went on twitter and said something nasty about -- may romney will never be president. >> this guy -- >> it's probably the only thing -- >> he said, he will never be president, like i was. >> this is like the most honest member of congress dressing down the most -- this is a great moment. and santos needed to hear that. -- the republicans are going to have a chance, i think, to balance the sky -- as soon as the ethics committee committee -- they really ought to do it. he's a complete and total embarrassment. -- it doesn't represent any republican that i know. republicans are embarrassed by him. is not an ideological hero of any kind. he's an accident and a dishonest one at that. and we need more mitt romney attitude on this guy -- >> the brazenness to. members wait for hours to -- shake the presidents hand. you would think you would have the humility to know, i

probably don't belong here. but also he's been funny -- and someone sees like the gift that keeps on giving committed lee. a constituent of him -- with a group to protest him talk to him about -- afghan visas to help interpreters get to the u.s. under serve. and he's not doing constituents or versus. so, she's not gone through the form of his office to deal with the state department -- that's been on hold since he's been elected. the actual issues that matter to people, he does not doing the job. it's just a shameful and that's right, he should resign. >> one can't imagine that he's really getting things done. nobody wants to be associated -- >> look, i mean, who can crawl into this guy's head and understand what motivates him. every time he steps on the floor, every time he's in public, embarrasses himself. -- and -- and and -- in terms of the presidents

speech here, if you are in this white house tomorrow morning, would you be about as happy as one could be -- >> also, this was sort of the framework of an argument that will carry forward should he announced for reelection. and what he's going to carry forward, tomorrow. and begins to take pieces of the road. but i want to just second something that alyssa farah griffin said earlier. a challenge, not just for joe biden by the democratic party, more for the democratic party than joe biden as been, in many ways, the abandonment of voters in the middle of the country, the abandonment of non-college educated voters. there was one line in the speech, i think jon kaine mentioned it earlier, he said, let's offer every american the path to good career whether they go to college and. up i think that was really important message because that

was the sense among those voters in particular the. democratic party and elite, college educated party that looks down on people who work with their hands, who work with their backs -- and basically, biden's whole speech was, you know what -- i hear you. identify with you. >> it's very important. >> basically, saying, this is your grandfather's democrat party. >> i thought that was really important in japan where that sense of elite-ism. and he pointed, out in particular, some of these infrastructure jobs and other jobs i 100, 000, hundred 20,000 dollar a year and you don't have to have a college degree. that says something. and i think it is true for him. and i know that you cannot just get out there and brag on yourself. and i think he did a good job. what a lot of this stuff that the democrats got done, sometimes with republicans and sometimes on our own in the last two years you won't even see the benefit of that for another 12 months or 18 months as some of these infrastructure

jobs come on >> >> as -- we shout reshoring talk about america first, we saw we showing some of these technologies jobs and some of the ships manufacturing stuff you are gonna start having people look at the real reason to hope again into believe -- the other thing you pointed out was the manufacturing jobs coming back. we have our growing manufacturing jobs in a way that we have for two generations. so, there is help on the way. right now, people are sad, and they should be. and they are resistant to hope -- people are scared. hopefully hope, i think hope is on the way. >> one of the point i would raise is, the outreach to seniors and his emphasis on the things that were done and to help older americans and that's a base for joe biden. he does very well with those voters and he does not do as well with other voters. and he would be well advised to cultivate that as he moved forward. because it's going to be -- >> i think a standout moment of the night was the exchange over entitlements and i think it shows a snapshots of biden's 2024 strategy which is gonna be tried to paint the retirement

attire meant of the -- sort of minority that is the most extreme. and that's exactly what we are seeing and i think to his credit he did it fairly artfully and unfortunately the house republican conference then did not lend itself well to the notion that we are not, you know, the extremists, the ones who are shouting and interrupting. but i would -- i think it's something republicans have to prepare for is to say, we are not the party of marjorie taylor greene and, we are not the party of paul gosar and matt gates. we are the party of substance. and we are also not trying to cut you aren't elements. and -- defended about. that >> it's hard to make that argument, though -- i mean, given -- they are now back on committees. they've been rewarded in a way that -- >> they have more power than they ever have. the house republican caucus really pulls back the entirety of the party in this moment. >> these people will be irrelevant, depending on who we nominate for president. they will -- and obviously that is what joe biden is desperate for to happen. he wants all trump. this is his dream to get this rematch. it's also down trump's dream. they share the same dream. they sit at the hardee's together in the back of the booth.

at six a.m. and talk about the dream they had to run against each other again. >> -- >> do you think it is different if it's a good desantis -- >> i do, actually. he's president because he was not bernie and he was not trump. that's why he's the president. that's why people waiting for him to move on. that's the only thing they wanted him to do. so, if you give him somebody, also a younger person, a new generation, to move, to me, the crazy personalities and even some of the issues to -- just on the question of empowerment, i want to make two points. one is dimension in the break that i was in the house when president obama made a speech about health care. and he was called a liar by representative joe wilson from south carolina. he was rambling widely rebuke by republican leaders and apologize. you have several members including marjorie taylor greene doing the same thing tonight. and they get the from kevin mccarthy. >> we are going to take a. break coming, up a moment in the president speech --

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>> we have a lot more coverage of the state of the union at this hour. but right now major breaking news in the sports world. king james is the new blitz king of the nba. los angeles lakers super star, lebron james, has just become the league's all-time leading scorer. james scoring 36 points tonight so far, the game is still going on. what he has done is past fellow laker legend kareem abdul-jabbar. which abdul-jabbar head since 1984. and it is in tonight's game! cnn's omar jimenez is in the crypto.com arena. he is joining us by phone. omar, tell us what that moment was like? >> honestly, watching the aftermath of that moment right now is incredibly surreal,

anybody here in the arena was on their feet waiting. baiting their breath for anticipation of the shot going in. one of the signature fadeaway shots in the left elbow. and he absolutely drained it. that performance, hands up in the air. his entire family, his close friends cheering them on. they are now on the court celebrating, and some of them look, i should say, very emotional at this moment. it's a moment that people thought would it be broken. 30 games, and thousand career points at the highest level of basketball over the course of an and b.a. career, that's been 20 years for lebron james and now he stands at center court as fans chant mvp. he plays a bunch of blood is essentially him collecting over his career, and it could not be

a more proud moment. for the fans, for his family looking on. and the right side of him. and of course to the nba. now surpassing one milestone, and handing it off to the next generation. >> omar, how cool as a huge basketball fan, and former player yourself to be there to witness this incredible, incredible history. i want to go now to someone who knows lebron james and the nba, and pretty much all of sports very well. sportscaster, and cnn contributor bob costas. omar said over 30, 000, let's be exact. 30,387 points. that is the number that kareem abdul-jabbar said all those years ago. and that was what was just surpassed. i was just reading that we know that lebron james set out at a very young age to break all kinds of records in the nba. but this one? he said i never said i wanted to lead the league in scoring.

and pressure never said i wanted to be the all-time leader in scoring. and yet here he is. >> yes, it's a tribute not only to his continued excellence but to his longevity. at age 38, and his 20th season. and kareem by the way also played 20 seasons. but not as many minutes towards the end of his career, as lebron's right now. lebron, still among the tiny handful of best players in the league. lebron only led the league in scoring one season. michael jordan led the league in scoring ten seasons. and he averaged more points per game. certainly more than 30, that lebron has over his career. but lebron leads michael in rebounds, and assists per game. if you play at that high level, for 20 seasons. and stay healthy. then you've got the chance to scale the highest mountain. kareem abdul-jabbar held that record for a long time. and now it belongs to lebron.

and as i watch the game not, at the game, but watching it. the last flurry that took him past the mark of kareem abdul-jabbar, had a little bit of everything. from the lebron james playbook. he hit back to back three pointers. then he took an alleyoop, and thanked one in. and the last basket that took him past kareem abdul-jabbar, was a classic fadeaway from the foul line. he's so versatile. so many aspects to the game. and he showed a little bit of everything today. in his 20th season of the league. >> we should now, this is obviously a huge milestone. he's already racked up so many. for nba championships, four-time mvp award, three all-time mvp award. two gold medals. it goes on and on. bob, you interviewed lebron james back in 2003. i want to play a little bit of that and talk on the other side. >> how does it feel to know that if you are not eventually a hall of fame caliber player, it's not good enough to be good

or an all-star, if you're not eventually a first rank hall of famer, a lot of people will say that you are a bust or overhyped? >> how does that make me feel? i don't look at it as looking into the future, i always go by. and take every moment at a time. because you are not promised tomorrow. and that's what my mom brought me upon, and i always say that i try to get better every day at what i do. >> your thoughts now? >> well, even then i was impressed. as an 18 year old, when all of the scrutiny and adulation had already come his way. he was very mature, he was very levelheaded in his responses. and you have to understand the context. moses malone came out of high school, right into the nba. won three mvp awards. went to the hall of fame, true. even kobe bryant, obviously one of the greatest of the great. came right out of high school. but none had the pre-nba during high school attention that lebron had. his games, his high school

games were on espn. sports illustrated was all over his story, he was a national name before he ever hit the nba. and my question therefore, was not to put him on the spot it was appropriate. and it was true, it wasn't enough that he just be a good player. he had to become an all-time great to meet those expectations. not only, does it turnout, he met every expectation. he exceeded them. he's had a deeply admiral career. >> he sure has. okay bob standby, i want to go back to los angeles. to omar jimenez, who again is in the stadium there. omar, what is happening right now? >> well, lebron just adjust the entire crowd reflecting on this monumental moment. and he said what he said over the past week, that he couldn't believe that he is the one to beat in this situation. but you look at what some of bob says, and what lebron has done in his career. who else would have been in the

situation? he was emotional. he spoke through tears. he said alongside nba commissioner, adam seeth silver, and kareem. [inaudible] i honestly think he was just lost for words. among friends, family. he seems like someone who could not be more grateful and more humble by of course this monumental's moment. >> fascinating, and the fact that kareem abdul-jabbar, of course, an l.a. lakers. the one who gave everybody, including lebron that scored to overcome. was there. it's pretty remarkable. thank you to omar, thank you very much to bob costas, i appreciate you. i want to go back to the state of the union address that happened in washington tonight. president biden traveling to capitol hill, and declaring the state of the union is strong. i am data badge in washington d.c.. >> and i'm alison and camera. it's great to be with you on this historic night, for many

reasons. president biden touting his major legislative and foreign parsley treatments for his years in office. and urging lawmakers to help him quote, finish the job. president biden's speech tonight focused on a lot of issues. health care, and social security, the economy, and taxes. the president also pushed congress has other major legislator including police reform, and the immigration system. i want to bring in cnn chief correspondent phil mattingly, so phil, what is the mood in the west wing after tonight's speech? >> they had high expectations. the president going into these remarks. crafting over a period of months. including a really intensive process over the last couple of days. the speech, as you noted, was going to focus on the way of finishing the job. mentioning 12 times in the remarks, and outlining why they're relieved that there is

a resiliency that would carry forward in the years ahead. including the likely reelection campaign of the president. but it was an off the cuff, unscripted, back and forth. with house republicans in the chamber, that is really drawing the most buoyant response from law house officials. the president laying out how some republicans wanted change or reform entire programs like social security and medicare drew a harsh response from republicans and said that it was not on the table at the moment. the president engaged, even as he was calling a liar from some republicans. going back and forth. calling it the conversion moment. calling on all republicans to stand, for seniors. at which point, all republicans and democrats did exactly that. that moment, i'm told, inside of the white house. but hi applauds from white house officials. chairs from white house officials. as it played out in realtime. and the president, as he returned to the white house, was created by white house staff waiting for him in the diplomatic room. to a standing ovation. when he approaches staff, he

noted chief of staff ron. his last day is tomorrow. called out run klain and his service to the administration, at which point he gave a few remarks of his own calling on that moment of medicare and security. one of the all-time great moments. and the state of the union, and people remember it in the years to come. so if you want to sense of how white house officials who are feeling going into the speech, shortly they felt like they had some high expectations that the president would deliver on. in the weight of that speech, he clearly surpassed the expectations that underscores the feeling inside the white house right now. and the idea that this isn't just a moment tonight, in front of tens of millions of viewers in a primetime address. but looking forward in the weeks, months, and potentially years. as he weighs reelection ahead. alison. >> it was quite a moment. okay phil, thank you so much for that. so calls from bipartisanship, to loud heckling, as you just heard from republican. here's some of the highs and lows from the state of the union address! >> mister speaker! the president of the united states!

[applause] >> i think other people sent us a clear message. fighting for the saint of flying. power for the sake of power, conflict for the state of conflict gets us nowhere. let's get some results. we're not finished yet, by the stretch of any imagination. but the unemployment is at 50%. a 50 year low. instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some republicans, some republicans want medicare and's social security to sunset. i'm not saying it's a majority. [crowd chanting] >> i'm glad you see it! let's finish the job! join us tonight, are the parents of tyre nichols. welcome. it is up to us, it is up to all of us and putin's invasion has been a test of the asians.

we stand for the defense of democracy! one year later! we know the answer! yes we would and we did! we did! make no mistake about it. as we made clear last week, if china threatens our sovereignty. we will act to protect our country. and we did! because the soul of this nation is strong. [inaudible] the state of the union is strong! [applause] >> okay, we'll have much more on all of those moments. but next, president biden urged congress to work together on a number of major legislative priorities. is that realistic? one republican considering a 2024 presidential bid joins us live! so thank you.

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moment for congress. and the people to see the president congratulating the new speaker of the house, the new congress that is led by republicans, i thought that was a good moment for our democracy. and i thought it was a warm exchange. >> at the beginning? >> at the beginning, but it was a banter back and forth. it was a little bit odd because he was responding so much to the audience in front of him and usually they just focus on the american audiences there, but notwithstanding that warmth that i think started off with particularly, it was striking to me that he gave such a short time to such key issues. that i had a greater expectation on, the border security 60 minutes and before he mentioned the border and immigration. whenever you look at the time on china, what a great opportunity to really emphasize

the threat that china brings and how we need to address it, energy and it really was discouraging to those who want to invest in energy production and so, those are some surprises that i saw. >> he obviously wanted to focus on the economy. because that's where people, i just have to say, i know where you are going about sort of, the warmth that's the word that you use at the beginning. but then he was called a liar. more than once by republican house members? >> yes, but feet be fair though. that was from somebody in the back of the chamber, and you can see the speaker saying she. so they were really showing respect and i think because you have one member that acts in appropriately, maybe they ought to deal with that. but by and large i thought that the republican side showed great respect to the president. certainly, speaker mccarthy did. >> governor, you made the no secret that you're looking to

potentially considering running in 2024. by the defense that the republicans have put up, what do you think, you know, what do you think he is like as an opponent? what is his standing right now? is he a strong, potential ripple opponent for republican? >> i think he would be a strong candidate against donald trump. because he likes to run against donald trump, and raise that contrast. and democrats like that matchup. i do not think that is going to be the case. and in fact, when you look at things that he articulated about the economy, and reducing inflation. the american people, by and large, say it is time for a change. and so, it doesn't change the dynamics. the fact that he made a campaign speech. which presidents do. and the state of the union address, handing the stage for the future. but the contrast are really set up dramatically for 2024. big government solutions that

he presents, more taxes he presented. minimizing the energy production in the united states of american. not presenting solutions for the border. i will say that he said, if you can't pass comprehensive immigration reform. give me aboard a resource spell. and to me, that left an opening. >> yes, and actually i notice that republicans didn't really applaud for that. ted cruz was shaking his head. that is one thing that maybe they could work on. is there anything else that you heard in the speech tonight, that may be from a tactical perspective, republicans could, or should work with biden? >> let's look through some of the things that he has talked about. i thought it was a positive moment whenever he talked about, you present your economic plan, i'll present mine and we will talk about it. you saw the speaker behind saying that is great that's. what i've been asking for. so i thought that was a positive discussion.

but then, pretty quickly, his economic plan is raising taxes, and more regulation. and our idea is let's control spending. but it is still is good that we had that exchange. >> what do you think of your successors, huckabee sanders? republican rebuttal did not mention donald trump. he worked with donald trump, was aligned with donald trump. but it was not part of the speech, what does that say with you bob? how the party is talking about embracing the former president? >> what she saying is it is time for a new generation of leaders. and she contrasted her being the youngest governor of arkansas, with president biden's age and running for reelection. but i think that she drew contrasts there, she told that story about going to iraq with the president and did mention the name but, obviously, everyone knows that she was the sports person for president

trump and there is a close connection there but i thought that she did a really good job of drawing a contrast which is what is necessary, and secondly, from an arkansas standpoint, she made a little bit of news because she said she is going to be announcing her education plan tomorrow which school choice. parental engagement, and reading. and literacy. so, that was exciting to hear. her talk about some of the goals that she has for the state. >> you, say you don't think that donald trump is gonna be the nominee for your party. i'm just wondering, why are you confident in that outcome? what do you see right now that suggest to you that he is not on the path to potentially be the nominee again? >> well, clearly, he's still got us strength. following that is out there. so i don't want to overly diminish the chances. but the fact is, he cannot win in an november election.

because you can't draw independents. he's got a small number of the republican base. so is that gonna shrink, or expand? and my conversation is both with donors, but with grassroots republicans. from iowa, to new hampshire. it is, let's look for an alternative that can win. we want to win. >> two random states that you just picked out. [laughter] i want to new hampshire. but on that point, sort of, if you choose to get in the race. is that going to be one of your arguments? that he cannot win in november? >> sure. absolutely. >> when are you gonna decide if you can run? >> stay tuned. but it is probably going to be later in spring. you have a little bit of time to work with. right now it is important to message. this is the perfect illustration of, it when president biden said what the contrast is. when a consistent, conservative message. but engaging in problem solving. that is what i hope that our future candidates will focus on. >> thanks for staying up late with us. nice to see you! >> thank you, good to be with.

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>> we are back with our special coverage of the state of the union address. democratic lawmakers are criticizing their republican colleagues who loudly interrupted president biden's speech tonight. one of the most raucous outburst was when republicans booed the presidents remarks about their economic proposals. >> some of my republican friends, want to take the economy hostage. i get it. unless i agree to their economic plans. instead of the making the wealthy pay their share, some republican, some republicans want medicare and social stability sunset. [crowd chanting] [crowd chanting]

anybody here, i'll give you a copy of the proposal. amidst congress doesn't vote. i'm glad to see it! i tell you, i enjoy conversion. >> i want to bring in now, former democratic congressman mondaire jones, and adam kinzinger. great to have you here tonight. congressman kinzinger, and before we get to that moment. and i do want to talk about that moment, particularly how president biden handle it it was raucous and he wasn't rattled. it's an interesting moment to see. but what do you think about that moment? >> it's interesting. if you just read, it would be like any other state of the union speech. what matters is what people pay attention to, and it is delivery. particularly when he's on criticism for his age. republicans say he's not there mentally. he got booed out of the water tonight, he really did, i think he had the energy necessary that sparring back and forth was something that i did not have on my bingo card. so i think the speech itself

wasn't all there. i was actually disappointed going into more foreign policy, particularly on ukraine right now, but, he delivered it and did everything he needs to do right now. >> and congressman jones? >> i think he had a strong speech tonight. it's actually now my favorite speech of his, i think he has done well in the prior to the state of the union addresses that he has given. when he was talking about some of the economic legislation that he wanted to see congress passing that we were still negotiating at the time but, you know, let's begin. for someone who has been routinely criticized for his age. and for the way in which he delivered speeches. he has more than exceeded expectations. i will say, i wanted to see him go into greater detail, with respect to the policing reform that he wants congress to an act. he did not explicitly call for congress to pass the george floyd justice and policing act. >> i wonder why he didn't. particularly, with a guess that he had invited. this was the moment? >> i think it's because he knows that under gop control in the house, the version of the

george floyd justice and policing act under democratic control is not going to see the light of day. and that there may not even be much support on the republican side for any version of the george floyd justice and policing act. >> let's talk about that moment, so, congressman what did you think of that and not how president biden handled it but the fact that it happened? >> it was disgraced civil, it really was, i sat on that four and every year in the state of the union speech i get more nervous that there is going to be bigger outbursts. george wilson did his famous outburst. >> and it was shocking! 2009, that was shocking. it happened several more times. >> there is a reason decorum exist, because when it breaks down, it's hard to self govern. marjorie taylor greene tonight, she was trying to get attention, she was disgraceful, and as a republican tonight i was embarrassed. and i think, and they won't do

it, i think kevin mccarthy should lead the center against her for her behavior. >> but you're sure he won't do it? >> i am sure that he won't do it. of course not. he needs her. >> as an american i was embarrassed. because you know who the central characters of the speech will be before the speech is even delivered. because it is really about the audience. for too many of these folks. and congress. some of the newer people. lauren boebert, with someone else. who could always be trusted to. engage in theatrical. >> there was more than just the two of them. there was a moment of the groundswell of the sound of the rock's needs from the republican side. so you can't just center the two of, them i think. >> no, so here's what's interesting. it's like. i remember when donald trump was president. there would be some outliers from the democrats. but it was not like this. it wasn't like yelling liar! and this just absolute, complete lack of decorum. and i get it because emotions are running high. you are being attacked by the

president in your mind, so you have to push back. they walked right into, i don't know if he set the trap on purpose or he was right in on the fly. they walked right into the buzzsaw and he crushed them. >> that's interesting, we just heard from phil mattingly, our chief white house correspondent who said that they were quite pleased at the white house tonight with how it went. because he was not rattled. and he rolled with it. >> this is holy grail stuff, you're talking about merrick medicare and social security. this is something that unites republican voters, and democratic voters, and dependence. if he is going to say that democrats want to take a cut from medicare and social security. he knows the response in the moment. just a few moments ago, he saying that we do need to make some changes to social security and medicare, we do want to deny that it would be, i think it would be fatal to them in 2024 if they want to go through with it. >> so another, words what the president said tonight was true. he said you're a liar and not

true. what he said was true, some republicans are looking to sunset medicare. and social security? >> it is true. rick scott is one of them. the other thing, and what is interesting tonight, so i've always been an advocate to say that people should not be under the same social security as my parents, we have to make changes and adjustments. whether that's taxes, orchids, that's up for debate. but the republicans tonight saying we don't want to touch it, we don't want to do anything. you now effectively have no party that is advocating for the reform of social security and medicare, and i am telling you that we are gonna find ourselves an a political at some point. maybe you just want to raise taxes for? that's a legitimate answer. but now the debate is no one wants to touch it, ever. it's gonna be arruda really cunning. >> so quickly, do you think that tonight change things in terms of how the president is cnn in terms of his reelection? we are talking about the style of him seeming spry, energetic. i don't know if americans

decide who they're gonna vote for based on the state of the union address? do you think tonight changed. >> perhaps it used to be the case that it would change the american public opinion for the president of the united states to deliver a highly persuasive speech to the american congress, and the people at large. but that is not the nature of our media environment today. what you will see when you turn to fox news. is all of the gaps that he potentially made tonight. all of the time that he may be stuttered, or pause to collect his thoughts. and of course, editorial-ization of what has actually been happening in this country. as opposed to the factual data. that employment is at an historically low. that the president has presided over record job creation, which he could take a lot of credit for. so on and so forth. >> he showed energy tonight, that is what he needed to do. >> gentlemen, thank you. good to talk to you. up next, more on the central theme of president biden's

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>> it was one phrase that we

heard repeatedly during president biden's state of the union address. a plea to both republicans and democrats. for the next two years. >> let's finish the job. and banned these assault weapons. let's finish the job. and get more families access to affordable quality housing. let's finish the job and make the savings permanent! expand coverage of medicare. >> welcome back, we are here with our panel. i want to ask you, as someone who is a student, an expert on biden-ology. what did you make of the speech, and that particular refrain, it was interesting. and obviously the fact that we are talking about it. memorable. >> yeah, it was about as close as you can get to saying you will be hearing from me again, perhaps in 2024 without actually saying it. he has been hinting for a while that he had a case for the

presidency. if that you had to first do some things that would appeal to the members of the party on the left, a few things that would appeal to the party on the center. find some things that republicans would cooperate with you on, that will get you to the midterms and that might make the case for the next two years. one thing you might hear when you go to the white house has always been. this is not an improvisation. there is always been a plan. sequencing legislation. and there were times when it looked like it was not gonna work. >> some things that it? work >> a lot of things and it worked. but there were times when they, i talked to ron klein. he's leaving tomorrow. and he said we were dead, dead, dead. so many times. he said if i have to take one lesson from this experience. it is don't panic, and be patient. and i think that is a lesson of joe biden's career. >> yeah, i mean, they pride themselves in being they off twitter presidency. the off twitter campaign.

and, i mean that, one of the risks. and i asked republican earlier today, jeff duncan is one of our contributors of this. one of the risks for republicans is always believing that biden is dead in the water. when he is not. and even won his poll numbers look pretty bad, and when he looks like he is kind of middling. there has always been something else going on in the electorate. in which he has been able to make an argument. that i think is actually pretty simple. and it is an argument of general, reasonableness. i think it prevents some people, who maybe don't love him. from hating hem. and i think going into the midterms, these soso voters. the ones who allow democrats to do better than they expected in november. i think those will still be the voters, if biden is still going to run for reelection, he will need, and he will try to run

on. those voters i think are looking for people who are just simply going to try to make things better. they don't like all of it. but they think they're gonna try. >> that's an interesting point, david, the notion that there are so many voters out there who do not love him. but they will take him? is that still the case? and can it still be the case after they have seen him for two, or maybe three years? >> a look at our flash poll tonight. and we see yet again this pattern with biden, which is that, yes, 72% said they had a positive reaction to the speech. only 34% said very positive. we looked, that is the lowest very positive, meaning a passionate feel about it. across any flash poll that we've done in any president, in any state of the union. so yeah, a little mad, but they're still with him. and one of the key things are getting at abbey is that i think that biden has a sense of the electorate, certainly

better than twitter has a sense of the overall, brought electorate. and we see tonight, again, in our results tonight. i was mentioning earlier, we saw growth. pre-speech, the speech watchers. thought that he had some positive direction, taking the right direction on the economy. and that grew, by 16 points. when you asked people after the speech. when we look since this really add independent voters, more than a third of independent voters that he was doing the right direction in the economy and the speech. nearly two thirds of the population of the flash, full of the voters. felt good after they saw it. he grew tremendously in the electorate. >> just being in the room tonight, in the chamber, the mood completely change. from the republican side. it started off as a very positive speech, welcoming kevin mccarthy and people were gently in a good mood going and. but then when he started talking about the things that passed, along party lines.

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>> welcome back to our special coverage of the state of the union address. president biden did bring up the u.s. competing with china,

was that a veiled reference to last week's spy balloon saga? we are back with the panel now. okay, so let's talk about that. because there was a lot of talk beforehand about whether or not he would bring that the spy balloon, he told -- >> it was pretty -- to not address it head on. but i really think he glossed over china. to be honest, this is our one geopolitical foe. i think it was preyed 15, and probably a paragraph. we have to, think our numbers23y saw this, and part of the state of the union is educating the public on the things that don't necessarily impact them day-to-day that matter. in the threat of countering china is one of those things. i think you can go in that candidate as well, hosting zelenskyy, and to reinforce the importance of why it is in the u.s.'s best interest to support ukraine. >> you know, i said the other day that the thing that balloons, and this is not

directed at you. but the thing that balloons may, it is a lot of hot air. there was so much about this balloon. meanwhile, he is the president of the united states. and he is trying to manage what is a very, volatile and dangerous situation. and, i don't know what all is going on now between us and china. since this happened. but we are already, you know, we did send more military to the philippines. the situation over in taiwan is heating up. . >> should he have talked about foreign policy or china more? >> i think what he, i think if you read his comments. what he was saying was this is the relationship that we have to manage, and he suggested that it was fraught, but i, just on the whole balloon situation. [laughter] no seriously, on the balloon situation. i believe that the military,

and the intelligence community had a pretty clear sense of what was going on, and, there were things going on that we do not know about, and there were a lot of people who were talking about it, authoritatively. >> i'm glad that they didn't talk about it. because i am sick of it. here is the reality, there, is there are 1000 things that are more threatening to america. than this balloon. tiktok! tiktok is more threatening! there are 100 satellites above us right now, gathering information. but you cannot see them. so we don't have to react to them. if you could see it? >> well, they said. >> that's basically what they did. and my point is, a serious problem. blinken was supposed to go over there, try to get china away from putin. trying to deal with taiwan. so there is a balloon! so we have to spend a week on a balloon. when there is satellites. and i'm glad we get to talk

about it. >> i agree with you, there are. there is a little balloon in every house. tiktok, or whatever. we've all got pollutants flying around in our homes. but it's emblematic of what the republicans believe is just a general slowness, and a general weakness when it comes to, you know, what is probably our number one geopolitical foe, and it is embarrassing! they flew this thing over our entire, the entirety of our country. from alaska, to the carolinas! >> but for 48 hours? >> you can look up and see. and the american people i just think are like, with us in a balloon with china. you wanted to fly away from china? >> they shot it down. i made, the blast. with seven miles. if we had shut it down. and the stuff came raining down on a community. >> or a school? >> but then again, the discussion tonight should have been bigger than book the balloon. i don't think he should have mentioned that malone. it's a communications malpractice, not a win for

them. but beijing pays attention tonight. the world watches the state of the union. what is it to be tough on china? i think glossing over is what it felt like. >> saying yard tough on china, is it necessarily being tough on china. i remember when president trump, you may have been there at the time. lavished praise on chi. >> yeah, he's been on over the place on, it we cannot have mixed messages with this guy, he's a dictator and this guy is not our friend. >> delivered through the state of the union? >> well we also have other breaking news we need to get to right now. this is of the sports world, nba superstar lebron james of the los angeles lakers has become the league's all-time leading scorer. that was tonight. just a short time ago. here it is! [applause] >> coming to the end of the third quarter! robert on james and his shot at history! lebron stands alone!

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